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BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 6/21/2024, 12:53 PM
Look, I'm not going to consider Marvel to be "Back" until there is more than one occasional hit. When they get to a point of consistent box office and audience acclaim, then I'll say the MCU is back. I don't think one movie can save it, I don't think two movies can save it. One or two hits among a sea of boring flops isn't a positive sign. Give me several consistent back-to-back hits then we'll talk.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 6/21/2024, 12:55 PM
@BobGarlen - one or two flops can sink it but one or two hits can’t?
Blergh
Blergh - 6/21/2024, 1:06 PM
@BobGarlen - hard to be back after being so far on top, the fall was even deeper given their slump. IMO the best we’ll get is two hits followed by single stinkers and the set repeating.

As far as box office goes it’s not necessarily hard for them to get butts back into seats but will eventually damage the profitability: bring back the stars that the universe was built on. These will be expensive but I assume worth it given that this seems to be what folks want (not necessarily me).

What IMO needs to happen: a third Doctor Strange movie that “retires” the character until needed for team-ups, a fourth Thor movie to set up Hercules & Olympia, a final sixth Thor movie that sees him team up with Loki and finally “retire” to Valhalla in peace, a “Young Avengers” that ends in chaos leading into “Secret Wars” by also wrapping up the Multiverse Arc; and ultimately a Scarlet Witch/Vision movie that sees them reunite and turn human.

Other than that we’ll certainly see Black Panther 3, a final movie that phases out Carol Danvers (ideally paired with something that also fades out the Eternals).

I’d like the MCU to lead into its horror themed chapter next. Blade, Moon Knight, Frankencastle, Lillith, Ghost Rider it’s all right there
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 6/21/2024, 2:59 PM
@BobGarlen - Your parents must be really proud of your grades.
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 6/21/2024, 3:42 PM
@MyCoolYoung - Once it hits a point of consistency it's either down or up. Taking into account the losses of the Disney + shows, and a few box office flops/underperformers you are giving a consistent downward trend. One movie isn't going to be the sign the studio is creatively "back", it's just the sign the studio made a successful film. Two is lucky, but one or two a pattern does not make. I usually go by a rule of three, but that's myself.
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 6/21/2024, 3:44 PM
@SpiderParker - A pointless personal attack because you disagree. Just say 'I don't think so' give a reason and move on. No need to be disrespectful, especially when I didn't lobby any insults at you.
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 6/21/2024, 3:48 PM
@Blergh - I just think they need some time to be missed and wanted again. I think if they took 2 or 3 years off, without a disney + or theatrical release (and I'm not saying don't work on anything) it would help. Take some time to re-calibrate things according to genuine audience feedback then come out the gate with your best foot forward. I think they really should have taken some time off just to let the audience miss them.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 6/21/2024, 4:04 PM
@BobGarlen - What do you mean? I thought you got great grades every single time so your parents must be proud. But your perception that its an insult tells me you didn't.

Don't tell me when you actually did good, your parents said "Give me several consistent back-to-back hits then we'll talk."? That must have been tough.

"Pointless"? I don't think so.
lvcl
lvcl - 6/21/2024, 4:37 PM
obgarlen -

At this moment there is no team of Avengers, it would be good if Dr Strange formed The Defenders, taking advantage of all those characters that have been presented in the last films and have been forgotten, with Namor, Hulk, Silver Surfer, Clea, Wong, Valkyrie, Black Knight and all the NETFLIX characters like Hellcat, Luke Cage, Daredevil, Iron Fist and Jessica Jones.

MCU has all the characters.

I don't understand, what are you waiting for, Christmas?
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 6/21/2024, 4:50 PM
@SpiderParker - I do not accept the idea your comment was anything resembling good faith. I don't find a comparison of education to entertainment to be a valid or effective mode of calibrating success or failure of a multi-billion-dollar franchise.
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 6/21/2024, 4:55 PM
@lvcl - With as many available characters as they have, and the complicated nature of developing adequate projects to showcase the sizable entourage, it seems it would behoove them to take their time to figure out moves and allow time to pass. They won big time with Endgame's release; they could have afforded to take a couple years off to relax the studio pressure of getting something out on time. They could have taken 2020/2021 without releasing anything, and then aim to get a project in development mid-2021 for mid-2022 release. I don't believe there have been any projects during that time that seriously threatened Disney's position as top of the Box Office. Just (apparently dumb) wishful thinking on my part.
VISIONaryNPa1
VISIONaryNPa1 - 6/21/2024, 10:59 PM
@BobGarlen - this ^ 100%

SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 6/22/2024, 2:17 AM
@BobGarlen - Well Bob, 'One or two flops among a sea of hits isn't a negative sign'.

Let me enlighten you that almost every Marvel movie since pandemic has been in the top 10 highest grossing movies of the respective year. Quantumania was top 11 and if not for the lack of marketing, The Marvels would have joined as well. So, your sea of flops looks like a drop. Technically, all of them except The Marvels are hits.

And before you debate about quality of any movie, flop and hits have nothing to do with subjective quality but everything to do with objective box office. And even in pandemic, writers strike, streaming boom, theater's decline and people's lack of enthusiasm for movies in general - Marvel have still been on the top.
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 6/22/2024, 5:16 AM
@SpiderParker - it doesn't matter if your top 11 in year with record low turnout, middling reviews, and box office receipts that don't recoup when you add in things like Marketing costs. Not to mention that the Disney + shows haven't earned the subscriber count nor in any way have positively contributed to the companies overall bottom line. What I sense is that we've hit and inpass. Where as you believe Marvel is still in a strong position and I simply do not agree.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 6/22/2024, 10:02 AM
@BobGarlen - It does matter. Their only flop since pandemic till now has been The Marvels and you make it as if they are flopping everywhere. They have 156million subscribers in less than 4years, apparently it took Netflix more than a decade to even cross 100million subscribers. Currently, Disney+ has almost 60% subscribers as Netflix.

Marvel has been breaking pandemic records left and right, tell me one other company who has continuously been in top 10 gross list several times a year. Your points are speculations without merit. You fail to realize the industry as a whole is in shambles and Marvel has been carrying the whole industry on its back. You are looking to Marvel as some sort of messiah to bring the film industry back on its feet all by itself without considering the fact that people like you would rather watch the movies in their home 3months later but review bomb during theatrical release.
ThreadIsFemale
ThreadIsFemale - 6/21/2024, 12:54 PM
No Amandla Stenberg, hard pass.
Vigor
Vigor - 6/21/2024, 1:35 PM
@ThreadIsFemale - are you the malatrova, but for star wars ?
ThreadIsFemale
ThreadIsFemale - 6/21/2024, 1:44 PM
@Vigor - what's malatrova? Is that a personal attack or something?
Vigor
Vigor - 6/21/2024, 1:54 PM
@ThreadIsFemale - you'll find out soon enough
Blergh
Blergh - 6/21/2024, 12:56 PM
Just make a movie that people like, don’t focus too hard on the future but have fun creating a new story.

I love the MCUs interconnectiveness but sometimes it’s not helping the individual movie
S8R8M
S8R8M - 6/21/2024, 12:57 PM
No pressure then haha.

It can make all the money but still be a crap movie. We will find out soon.
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 6/21/2024, 1:18 PM
@S8R8M - most likely a bloody, gory, f-bomb dropping pile of shit that will gross over 800 million.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 6/21/2024, 1:01 PM
Surprised this list didnt come out after the trailer dropped months ago.

p.s. i HOPE TO GOD that last picture is NOT of the "future Avengers" cuz that team looks like dogshit that no one wants to see.

anyways... wicked excited for this movie, will be there day 1. LFG
mountainman
mountainman - 6/21/2024, 1:13 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - Agreed with all of that.

With the next iteration of Avengers, why not mix old and new characters? If it’s all new, there will be less interest.

Hulk, Thor and Hawkeye are still around. So are Dr Strange, Vision and Spider-man.

Throw in some OGs and mix in a few new ones. But this line up looks like the B squad of rhe OG team.

ThreadIsFemale
ThreadIsFemale - 6/21/2024, 1:16 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - just replace Rhodey with Riri, add Shuri and we're golden.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/21/2024, 2:16 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - Fairly sure that was just a bad 'fan' made think switching out the original 6 with one of each of their respective legacy characters and highly doubtfull to be the ACTUAL team as will likely be or, or at least mostly characters who have been leads in a FILM, not supporting or leads in a D+ show (not to negate supporting and/or ones from D+ could show up in supporting roles).

We've already kinda had a sorta confirmation from the actor the Dr Strange will be one of them, Sam obviously will and decent chance of Yelena (which shouldn't be an issue for anyone realy as the new Black Widow). We still have THE Hulk who can easily return to a more savage duality form rather than the merged one we had in Endgame, still have Thor and Jane cannot easily turn up cos she's dead, still have Clint so and deffo will include Spider-Man.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 6/21/2024, 3:10 PM
@mountainman - @Apophis - yea i think your both right... its fan made and a mix of OG that are still around and some new blood is fine... just dont pander to a certain crowd... make it a good, strong team with different power sets like the OG and we are good.
DravenCorvis
DravenCorvis - 6/21/2024, 1:02 PM
Only 5? I mean, as far as your lists go, this is pretty low.

Why not 7 or 8? Those seem like your arbitrary numbers of choice lately - I'm aware I kinda contradicted myself there.

C'mon, you plucky, list making sumbitch! When you phone it in, we all kinda lose hope and sense of meaning here.

Gambito
Gambito - 6/21/2024, 1:03 PM
Back for a year until their next inescapable flop brave new world brings it down again and then when thunderbolts gets laughed out of the theater we’ll be hearing talks about a Deadpool 4
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 6/21/2024, 1:08 PM
@Gambito - maybe then they will go back to basics and stick to the dozens of A listers they have. Guardians was an outlier and warped their perception that any character can headline massive hits.
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 6/21/2024, 1:20 PM
@Gambito - shut the [frick] up
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 6/21/2024, 1:12 PM
Team-ups I want more than Deadpool & Wolverine

5. T'Chakka and Capt America

4. Spider-Man and Daredevil

3. Batman and Nightwing

2. The Fantasic 4

1. X-MEN Gold and Blue


Honsestly... I will give DP & Wolverine 1000 cmb points if they do an end credit scene with HULK vs Wolverine. No words- just visceral Jason vs Freddy asswhup.
Milklander
Milklander - 6/21/2024, 1:15 PM
Enough glazing Josh, just because Deadpool & Wolverine might be good doesn't mean the MCU isn't doomed in the long run
VISIONaryNPa1
VISIONaryNPa1 - 6/22/2024, 4:22 AM
@Brondern - yup
marvel72
marvel72 - 6/21/2024, 1:16 PM
It will be then Agatha and Ironheart will be released.
A case of one step forward two steps back.
ThreadIsFemale
ThreadIsFemale - 6/21/2024, 1:20 PM
@marvel72 - one step back, two forward. No one wants, or needs, 2 white guys saving MCU.
marvel72
marvel72 - 6/21/2024, 1:47 PM
@ThreadIsFemale - Two straight white guys are going to be in the biggest movie of the year.

Say thank you Hollywood for saving you in 2024.
ThreadIsFemale
ThreadIsFemale - 6/21/2024, 1:56 PM
@marvel72 - doubt it. But if true, it's because people saw The Acolyte on streaming and realized Disney still got it.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 6/21/2024, 1:18 PM
I doubt they’ll set much up with this. Making a more insular film will be a part of why it’ll be good.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 6/21/2024, 1:19 PM
Too optimistic.

Every shill site is declaring this a winner already. Disnet money working double time i see.

Wolverine and deadpool films havent broken 1B so what makes you think putting them together is that special? And the GA wont know if this is part of the mcu or not.

And even if this becomes a mild hit, the mcu will go back to mediocrity right away with the list of films/shows next year.

It will be the DCUs time starting next year
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