@Forthas - exactly superman legacy ain’t gonna blow people away. People actually think this will be a great film…. We shall see when the time comes…

@TheMetaMan - Just based on the costumes and the introduction of Krypto...I guarateee this will be no where near as epic as Man of Steel! I am not even sure Superman will be central to this film given how many of Gunn's friends and family are filling up the screen time.

@Forthas - For someone claiming it was such a great movie (man of steel) you have a pretty bad memory if you can't remember Pa Kent dying in a tornado as his son (man of steel) just watched. In my opinion "Man of Steel"was a piss poor interpretation of Superman. I thought so before I even left the theater, and struggled to justify the ending.

@McMurdo - and snapped an enemies' neck in front of civilians.

@DarthAlgar - The same one you recommended...don't you remember?

@Forthas - "I don't know of any Superman film where Pa Kent commits suicide"

"I remember Pa kent dying in the Tornado and I have ZERO problem with that scene other than one creative choice."

Pa Kent died by choice. Just because he thought he was doing what was right for his son, doesn't make it not a suicide. He could've lived, he told hjis son no. He made a choice to die.

Suicide.

@Forthas -

@lazlodaytona - @lazlodaytona - You can continue to believe that Man of Steel is not a good film becuase the Matrix is telling you to beleive it....but the fact are the fcat most of the criticisms leveled against Man of Steel are also present in Donner's films or in the comics. I am still waiting for you to show otherwise. I would have more respect for a person who was consistent and did not like Man of Steel OR Donner's films.

@SATW42 - I know you want all of your little friends on this site to go along with you but if someone dies trying to save a person/animal it is an act of heroism and not suicide. Did you even watch the film?

@TheMetaMan - yesss! because James Gunn has historically made shit movies. You should be the director I'm sure it'll be waaaay better

@Forthas - I still get goosebumps when he starts pounding on Zod shouting “YOU THINK. YOU CAN THREATEN. MY MOTHER”

It was the first Superman movie I felt like Supes was finally able to punch as hard as he can.

@Forthas - "Where is the "failure"?"

MoS turned a tiny profit for WBs who were expecting a billion dollar hull just because of the name brand:

"Was Man of Steel a successful movie?
Though the film was somewhat divisive, Snyder's unique style made Man of Steel a success, putting a fresh spin on the hero's well-known origin story. However, the franchise-building sequels that followed were fraught with issues, many of which began with Man of Steel.Aug 18, 2023"

"What is the profit of deadline Man of Steel?
As per Deadline's report, Man Of Steel had raked in just a little over $42 million as profit. If compared with $668 million, the profit is a little over 6%. That's a bit shocking!Sep 19, 2023"

Failure

BvS: "BvS ultimately made after considering all revenue streams for the film itself and subtracting all of the assorted costs. What is this? In the end, the film grossed $873m at the Worldwide box office, of which WB will pocket $367m. (The rest going to the theaters that showed the film.)"
Ouch. The two most iconicworldwide superheroes made WB just above $350 milliom. Oh, wait:
Oh wait, with a budget of almost $180 to $2 million + and marketing cost around $160 million.....

eeks. doesn't look good for Snyder's universe. Oh, and the failure? was those two films adding up to a Whedon-led clustf**k of Justice League. You really don't wanna the numbers to that one.

keep yapping about the DCEU verse. It may have been great for you but, as proven with the new DCU, Snyder's vision was an epic failure.

@JustAWaffle - I think it is a great blend of various aspects of film making. While not perfect, the visuals, actors, score, cinematography, story and action was all top notch!

@Forthas - who did Superman kill in Superman: The movie by Donnor?

@lazlodaytona - You keep brining up BVS which I have stated quite clearly is not something I defend. But of course you have to because you can't say man of Steel is a failure on its own. if it is a failure then so is Captain America First Avenger, Thor, and even The Batman.

@narrow290 - I’m not throwing shade at Gunn. I’m actually throwing shade at Warner bros. They have hired him to make a superman movie but if the movie fails it’s due to their influence and meddling as always. I don’t doubt Gunn, it’s the studio i don’t trust. I really hope I’m wrong but I just get this feeling it’s going to be silly, goofy and overstuffed.

@TheMetaMan - The studio has always gave Gunn what he wants it seems like they actually trust him

@TheMetaMan - Also, I had like 15 notifications from your two comments

@Forthas - That is a very interesting observation. I too hate the tornado scene, however, if Clark were pre-adolescent, the scene would have hit much better. I would have been ok with that.
The neck snap always made sense to me and served as a great multi-leveled motivator toward a no kill morality.