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Vigor
Vigor - 9/11/2024, 11:11 AM
Eh, I'd say first class was the most MCU of the foxmen movies
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/11/2024, 11:13 AM
@Vigor - I would agree with that…

Probably still my favorite one of atleast the reboot ones.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 9/11/2024, 12:04 PM
@Vigor - yes first class with none of the originals, cyclops younger brother on the X-men before cyclops, mystique as the most heroic person on the team! I have no notes!
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/11/2024, 12:32 PM
@NonPlayerC - yeah , it is what it is

I still do think it might have just worked better as the beginnings of Charles and Erik’s relationship as they took on Shaw
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 9/11/2024, 12:39 PM
@TheVisionary25 - no I get it. It was an objectively good movie in my opinion, just cherry picked characters that shouldn’t have been there and made mystique the star because Jennifer Laurence happened to blow up. She’s one of my favorite actresses but damn, mystique did not need to be the leader of the X-men
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/11/2024, 12:48 PM
@NonPlayerC - she didn’t really blow up until after Hunger Games came out which was a year after First Class which is after when she started to have a bigger role but I get yah.
foreverintheway
foreverintheway - 9/11/2024, 11:23 AM
Oh my god. Not every character needs a "second chance". and 7 MORE?! Brother just say you want the ENTIRE Fox X-Men universe rebooted.
DravenCorvis
DravenCorvis - 9/11/2024, 11:54 AM
@foreverintheway - 7 is his number.

Like 9 out of every 10 lists is "7..."
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 9/11/2024, 12:18 PM
@foreverintheway @DravenCorvis - 7s the key number, 7-11, 7 dwarves. 7 man that’s the number. 7 chipmunks twirling on a branch, eatin lots of sunflowers on my uncles ranch, you know that old children’s tale from the sea. It’s like you’re dreaming of Gorgonzola when it’s clearly Brie time baby!
mountainman
mountainman - 9/11/2024, 11:49 AM
I would prioritize characters more in need of redemption over ones that were already good in their other appearances. Nobody liked the Elektra movie but Jennifer Garner is getting a lot of praise for her D&W role. People didn’t like Origins Gambit and Tatum’s version in D&W was mostly well received. Top 7 in need of redemption:

7) Shadowcat
6) Jean Grey
5) Archangel
4) Iceman
3) Rogue
2) Storm
1) Cyclops

Villains needing redemption the most:

7) Silver Samuri
6) Juggernaut
5) Emma Frost
4) Sabertooth
3) Sentinels
2) Phoenix
1) Apocalypse
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 9/11/2024, 12:27 PM
@mountainman - I agree completely with both lists, although I truly hope I don’t see another phoenix run for a while and apocalypse can be too close to darkseid and thanos if he’s done right. I’d prefer a good sinister run or having magneto an actual true villain and having Xavier to wipe his mind to stop him. Boom onslaught as a threat that takes all avengers
mountainman
mountainman - 9/11/2024, 12:55 PM
@NonPlayerC - I don’t want another Phoenix story only because it’s been done terribly twice already. Maybe in some years down the road. I’m really only speaking to which characters can get cool cameos in the Multiverse Saga. You can have Famke Jensen as a more accurate Jean and/or Phoenix show up similar to the D&W cameos.

Story wise to build real mutant movies, the above list doesn’t apply. Just people that we can get cool redemption cameos over the next few years.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 9/11/2024, 1:00 PM
@mountainman - Hear! Hear!
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/11/2024, 12:01 PM
I wouldn’t mind seeing some of these like McAvoy and Fassbender’s Prof X and Magneto again as cameo in SW but that’s it tbh.

Please Feige , have a clean slate for the X-Men in the likely soft rebooted MCU with new actors for all of them especially Charles and Erik!!.

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marvel72
marvel72 - 9/11/2024, 12:09 PM
Most of these characters will return, probably recast though.
S8R8M
S8R8M - 9/11/2024, 12:16 PM
All I want is a decent Iceman & Cyclops
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 9/11/2024, 12:36 PM
@S8R8M - I’m almost certain iceman will be gay since the comics redo of him. How Bobby drake goes from the biggest ladies man of the X-men to his younger self meeting his older to explain that he’s actually gay still is grating to me. Am I against gay people no, just make new characters, don’t change characters that people have read their entire lives, get creative and make new ones
S8R8M
S8R8M - 9/11/2024, 4:36 PM
@NonPlayerC - I wouldn't say homophonic or anything. I completely get it because like myself, you saw those characters as they were from the beginning and you want to see them come full circle. If it worked with the story yes but if they did it to pander than no.
For me, I want to see iceman at his peak form, like when cyclops blew a hole through his stomach and he had to remain in his ice-y condition to avoid his intestines falling out. That would be class to see!
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 9/11/2024, 12:43 PM
How about nooooo? Except Fassbender and McAvoy. Bring them back for Secret Wars maybe.
MuadDib
MuadDib - 9/11/2024, 12:54 PM
What a sad and pathetic excuse for an article.

Let the FoX-Men die already. Hugh was nice but we can do better. Let’s not get too attached to specific actors playing these roles. It’s that logic that caused Ironman to be killed off and BP etc.

These characters are larger than any actors could ever be. The policy should always be to recast and move forward.

If anything the MCU has proven to be light years better than the Fox-verse, nostalgia can take a hike, we need new need blood.

I still want to see cross overs between Cap and Wolvie or Black Widow and Daredevil. We have sooooo much yet to explore that we’ll never get to see if we tie ourselves to specific actors and once they age out or tire of the role the character gets killed off? Wack
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 9/11/2024, 1:11 PM
@MuadDib - yeah you can already see where marvel is kinda pigeon holing themselves already. That said since it’s a shared universe you’re not gonna please everyone. Not having iron man and cap at the same time as fantastic four and X-men seems strange. We’ll see how it plays out here I guess
MuadDib
MuadDib - 9/11/2024, 4:00 PM
@NonPlayerC - Secret Wars really gives them a huge opportunity to fix things. Let’s see if they’re smart enough to reset the status quo moving forward
breakUbatman
breakUbatman - 9/11/2024, 12:57 PM
I'd much rather have a stand alone Marvel Studios Midnight Sons movie that reused Snipes and Cage.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/11/2024, 1:05 PM
@breakUbatman - nah , clean slate

People need to be open to new and other versions of these characters.
Polaris
Polaris - 9/11/2024, 3:00 PM
@TheVisionary25 - It seems Marvel itself doesn't want to move on from the old versions. We could have had a fresh start after Disney bought Fox and I think most people would have been ok with that because it was expected, like with Tom Holland as Spider-man. Instead they decided to use the multiverse to bring them back, to pick and choose, and now it's going to be harder to convince the fans of why it's necessary to recast when some of these characters are already part of the MCU. In other words, if they're going to cast RDJ as Doom then I want Fassbender back as Magneto lol
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/11/2024, 3:06 PM
@Polaris - I don’t know if RDJ being Doom and Fassbender are the same thing…

For one , you are using an actor that was previously in the MCU to play a new , different character while Fassbender would just be reprising a role he’s already played

I do get yah though since nostalgia is a powerful thing and while it’s debatable lol if this was necessary or not , I almost view this Multiverse Saga as a bit of a love letter to the history of Marvel on screen (good or bad) until we fully close the door on that and move onto the next phase that is more of a clean slate for certain characters like the X-Men or even FF to an extent…

Atleast that’s my hope
Polaris
Polaris - 9/11/2024, 4:28 PM
@TheVisionary25 - they aren't the same thing, but both are possible thanks to the multiverse (the examples were mostly a joke tho, since I hate the Doom casting and I demand compensation haha)

Love letter or not (and I agree that's part of it, the other part being easy money) they broke their own "rules" with all this. Now you're going to have people asking for Scarlett Johansson as Moonstone or whatever, things like that, and it doesn't matter that she was BW. Hugh Jackman retired and the fans were ready to move on I think, but now? People love him in the role and they found a way to keep him, so why not keep him? Closing that door is going to be even more difficult now.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/11/2024, 4:35 PM
@Polaris - that’s fair , I can see what you mean but I don’t think it will be a huge amount of people who ask for that

Lol , I don’t think I have been more mixed on anything then I am the RDJ Doom casting

I’m excited , nervous , have questions and a part of me doesn’t like it aswell
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 9/11/2024, 1:04 PM
First Class was so good, felt good getting an actually great X-Men that focused on the Xavier and Magneto dynamic.
Polaris
Polaris - 9/11/2024, 1:50 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - I'd love to have them back even if just for one movie. They reenergized the franchise and then Fox decided to waste them to focus on Mystique and keep jumping decades so they could recast the X-Men to tell the same stories and ruin them a second time.
The1st
The1st - 9/11/2024, 1:52 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - The irony is that neither him or McAvoy I feel will be cast in the MCU...they're probably in the ideal age range now for the characters I would say.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 9/11/2024, 2:22 PM
@Polaris - Agreed, hated how they devoted so much time to Mystique, especially because Lawrence was obviously exhausted with the role not even wanting to do the makeup anymore.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 9/11/2024, 2:23 PM
@The1st - Yeah, which is a damn shame, they nailed that casting.
Polaris
Polaris - 9/11/2024, 2:43 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - Exactly. She didn't even want to be there and they did the character no favors by turning her into a hero.
TREE24K
TREE24K - 9/11/2024, 1:38 PM
Unless there was a retcon I'm unaware of, Cable is the son of Cyclops and Madeline Pryor. She was Jean's clone. I think there was some limited series where Scott and Jean transplanted someone in the future and were actually the ones who raised him though.

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