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FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 6/28/2024, 1:07 PM
The villain is cool, in a Darth Maul kind of way. But he doesn’t hold a candle to Vader, or even Kylo.
Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 6/28/2024, 1:32 PM
@FireandBlood -
*trying not to burst out of laughing by the headline of this article.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/28/2024, 5:31 PM
@FireandBlood - Darth maul was cool. This guy is just a guy in a long list of guys.
Turklander
Turklander - 6/28/2024, 1:08 PM
Thw title of the article is pretty pretentious and is outrage bait but I just know annoying people in the comments are gonna say The Acolyte is the worst thing ever and killed Star Wars or some shit
SATW42
SATW42 - 6/28/2024, 3:31 PM
@Brondern - I don't really see how it's outrage bait in the least. It's literally saying "Here's 5 reasons why you should try this show if you're a Star Wars fan". It's not saying you aren't one if you don't try it, or that you HAVE to like it if you're a star Wars fan.
WakandaTech
WakandaTech - 6/28/2024, 1:15 PM
Is not as bad as you think it is

It's all in your imagination


Kathleen Kennedy has giving us an amazing Star Wars show

lol
Oberlin4Prez
Oberlin4Prez - 6/28/2024, 1:15 PM
A quick listicle response:

5. It’s really not.
4. It’s really not if you’re a fan that’s watched anything more than the mainline movies.
3. It’s worse (from a story perspective)
2. Probably the best Disney has had a hand in.
1. Lol, ok Jan.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 6/28/2024, 1:15 PM
I would say that the acolyte is clearly better than episodes 1, 2, 7, 8, and 9, as well as the book of boba Fett. All in all, it's a solid show, and I appreciate that. That pretty much every character in it is presented in a gray area. There are almost no clear, good or bad guys. I also appreciate that, while existing in the Star Wars universe, it has very little to do with any of the already established characters. That kind of universe. Expanding storytelling for Star Wars is something I've wanted for a long time
TrentCrimm
TrentCrimm - 6/28/2024, 2:34 PM
@Izaizaiza -
I'd give it a similar assessment as you did. It's not the best Star Wars stuff, but it's not even close to being the worst.

My biggest criticism would be the plot moves along pretty slowly and in an uninteresting way. The characters so far have been good, and the story is interesting enough, I'm really liking seeing the Jedi exist in more of a grey area, it's like seeing when a Jedi Knight was more of an actual knight.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 6/28/2024, 4:26 PM
@TrentCrimm - Yeah, I agree with that as well. There are some times that I'm really into what's happening with one group of characters and they kind of abruptly switch to the others. The pacing can be a bit jarring
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/28/2024, 5:37 PM
@Izaizaiza - nah I'd watch Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones all day over this because despite the awful dialogue and writing, there are things a real SW fan can appreciate in both those films. There is no Podracing scene here, no Yoda vs Dooku or Clone Wars battle, no Colosseum, no detective Obi Wan or the Kimono stuff with Jango Fett and Obi Wan. The best episodes are episodes 1 and 2 of the acolyte where you get the idea there might actually be a compelling mystery thriller here but then episodes 3 and 4 destroy all that good will, and then ep 5 2 characters with quite literally zero characterization get killed and we are supposed to feel something. The best part of this episode is when it starts, Sol is on vacation somewhere whilst all the Jedi gets slaughtered conveniently with him no where to be found and Jekki is on the floor taking a nap. Because screenwriting.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 6/28/2024, 6:32 PM
@McMurdo - Well, we have to disagree there. Not only do I think this show is objectively better written and directed than the phantom menace and attack the clones, I feel like those movies shat on Star Wars lore far worse. The introduction of midi-chlorians forever made the idea of the force dumber, and the horrible casting a. Hayden Christensen is Anakin is something that can never be forgiven. To have try to believe this guy, who isn't just a bad actor, but who also seems as threatening as a spoiled Rich fraternity boy whose mommy forgot to send him his weekly allowance... To have us believe that this guy will become one of the greatest And most intimidating film villains of all time was an insult to fans everywhere. Those two movies are trash, where is the acolyte is merely mediocre/good.

I did enjoy the Yoda Count Dooku fight, though 🤔
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/28/2024, 6:58 PM
@Izaizaiza - see id argue Acolyte is just as bad from the screenplay perspective because of the threads/witches can create force babies immaculately shtick....which is literally as bad if not worse than midichlorians (which you are 100 % correct was a miserable biological abortion of an attempt at giving the Force some explanation for measuring power that it never needed"). I don't disagree on Hayden btw. But I do believe the writing was far worse than how he read those lines, personally. Not saying he's a great actor but post-Ahsoka, I think it's a bit more clear he was less of the issue than in comparison to his dialogue.

I genuinely think the writing of the Acolyte has been filled with nothing but nonsensical events and explanations and motivational flip flopping since episode 3. The pilot and EP 2 were quite solid. I agree with your problems with prequels....but I think they are far and away the lesser of evils for lack of a better term. We can ignore midichlorians (Disney has).... Pretty hard to ignore right now that Anakins birth and Chosen One prophecy is no longer special.
Imdewback
Imdewback - 6/29/2024, 9:13 AM
@TrentCrimm - I agree with what you said, I was hoping for something a little more dark but I will take it. Episode 5 was the best one so far, great lightsaber duels with fast action loved it! If I get at least 1 or 2 episodes like that each series im thrilled. im older and remember the dark days when we only had the movies to wait for .
Give me more.
TrentCrimm
TrentCrimm - 6/29/2024, 9:31 AM
@Imdewback -

All I'll say after episode 5 is Jecki is a f**king badass.
I'd say that was my favorite episode so far as well.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 6/28/2024, 1:17 PM
I still find so many of the complaints odd. Not saying it's the best thing ever, but certainly not the worst and seems to fit right in with what one would expect from Star Wars.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 6/28/2024, 1:21 PM
@Itwasme - Acolyte haters be like

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McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/28/2024, 5:39 PM
@Itwasme - I still find it odd that you find complaints about bad writing odd.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 6/28/2024, 8:38 PM
@McMurdo - yes... because "scruffy looking perfect herder" is Oscar worthy. Star Wars has been riddled with campy and bad writing from the beginning. This is no worse than the prequels you seem to be gushing over. You don't think those had bad writing?
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 6/28/2024, 1:18 PM
Cool villain, for the 5minutes we get him.
Handful of really cool fight scenes.
That’s about it.
Oberlin4Prez
Oberlin4Prez - 6/28/2024, 1:23 PM
The funny thing about all of the dialogue around Disney Star Wars is that “the fans aren’t watching”. And sure there are doubtless many OG fans that have given up hope of having consistently good Star Wars content from Disney at this point, but the fact of the matter is, most of the viewers for these shows is likely still mostly OG fans who are just so hoping for something good that they tune in no matter what. Because the reality is the core fan base of any franchise is maybe a few million people, which is why all these shows, Star Wars/Marvel are so poor in the overall rating as time goes on because the normies don’t give a crap about a six -eight hour slog fest.
mpk1988
mpk1988 - 6/28/2024, 1:27 PM
I usually stay away from the abuse Josh... But sheesh... Maybe you deserve it..

Such a steaming pike of garbage. Your articles are starting to reek even more than the shit they defend
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 6/28/2024, 1:41 PM
@mpk1988 - Starting to think he gets a cut on the profits for this show with how much he is shilling for it. How many Acolyte articles has he written?
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 6/28/2024, 4:09 PM
@Shivermetimbers - You're only now just starting to think he gets a cut of profits???
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 6/28/2024, 4:40 PM
@TheFinestSmack - I could chalk it up to him being a shameless fan before and try to ignore the signs, but at this point its pretty obvious. I supposed I should have said, "he's definitely getting a cut..."
Saintsinnister
Saintsinnister - 6/28/2024, 1:30 PM
I’m not the type to hate on something for being woke. I didn’t even think the plot holes in Obi Wan were that bad. But the Acolyte is a bastardized Star Wars with shit characters and a Swiss cheese plot. I couldn’t watch after that first episode. I have been watching summaries of the rest of the episodes, I’m happy I never watched them. Even if 5 is good, I won’t watch it. Good for them for trying new stuff, including a diverse cast and all the other bull shit you listed. But to pretend that this show is good and that fans have just convinced themselves that it’s not is ridiculous. THE SHOW SUCKS.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 6/28/2024, 1:41 PM
@Saintsinnister - so you don't watch the show, but think it's not good?

Can you please let us all know what's woke about it? For those of us watching the show we'd like to know since it's not readily apparent.
Saintsinnister
Saintsinnister - 6/28/2024, 3:16 PM
@Itwasme - Read my comment again, I said that I gave it a shot and decided to just stick to the various summaries online afterwards. I know what’s going on. The fact that in the first episode not one male is white and every other male is a lame excuse for a character is pretty woke. Like there’s a whole lot of white dudes later on in the canon of Star Wars, where did they come from? Did England invade Star Wars too?

But that’s not the reason I quit watching, it’s because the story sucked and the main characters were not interesting to me. Myself and a bunch of other fans don’t like the show for various reasons, but you people keep telling us to watch it anyway. I’m not playing the wait and see if it gets better game with this turd, but I will watch The critical Drinker make fun of it every week.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 6/28/2024, 3:25 PM
@Saintsinnister - there's tons of dudes in this show. What are you on about?
Saintsinnister
Saintsinnister - 6/28/2024, 3:46 PM
@Itwasme - Oh I see now you’re a special kind of stupid. You pick out words and leave the words before them out. Where exactly did I say that the show didn’t have dudes in it?🥴 Stupidest response to a legitimate point I have ever seen. Go watch your show again, they can use the views
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 6/28/2024, 3:52 PM
@Saintsinnister - That’s funny though, isn’t it? Because you, yourself, admit that Star Wars was full of white males. Predominantly, even. What was it then, if now it’s “woke” they don’t predominantly make up the cast? Normal? 🤔
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 6/28/2024, 3:52 PM
@Itwasme - It’s “woke” because there aren’t enough white males, is what he’s saying.
Saintsinnister
Saintsinnister - 6/28/2024, 4:17 PM
@FireandBlood - Things get woke when you go out of your way to exclude people based off skin color and gender to pander to an audience when it doesn’t necessarily reflect the IP the series is based on. Of course you guys harp on the woke bs when I already explained that isn’t even the reason I gave up on it. It’s an obvious observation. If in every other Movie and Series they have a mix of characters but still mostly white males than yes, when something comes out with none it’s glaringly obvious. It would be different if it was any good but it’s not
Itwasme
Itwasme - 6/28/2024, 5:24 PM
@Saintsinnister - doesnt feel out of the way at all, so again, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/28/2024, 5:47 PM
@Saintsinnister - this is an awful series, but it has nothing to do with a lack of white men. Sol isn't dark skinned, he's a light skinned Asian. If you need a Caucasian in your content to be able to not be fragile then you're going to not enjoy a ton of great content. Like I can't picture you ever watching Memories of Murder or any South Korean thriller or horror film, or really any foreign language content period if you can't handle not having a white dude in it. This is a truly bad series, but the white thing is the least of its issues.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/28/2024, 5:49 PM
@FireandBlood - which is preposterous because nu-woke has nothing to do with race and people like him devalue the term. It's become a catch all for morons to scream at the rooftops any time they don't see their skin color well represented.
Saintsinnister
Saintsinnister - 6/28/2024, 7:14 PM
@McMurdo - You’re projecting a bunch of bullshit ideology on me I don’t have anything to do with. I already said that the wokeness isn’t even why it sucks. You lames just read what you want and lump everyone into some simple category because you want to feel superior. Read my comments again. I love all sorts of genres of movies and don’t need white people in them to feel included. I don’t know if we can say that about the people Disney is pandering to though. It’s pathetic and blatantly obvious
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/28/2024, 7:28 PM
@Saintsinnister - your quote-

"The fact that in the first episode not one male is white and every other male is a lame excuse for a character is pretty woke."


Actually you are projecting that I am projecting.
Saintsinnister
Saintsinnister - 6/28/2024, 8:06 PM
@McMurdo - Yeah I said that. And you turned it into this
“If you need a Caucasian in your content to be able to not be fragile then you're going to not enjoy a ton of great content. Like I can't picture you ever watching Memories of Murder or any South Korean thriller.”

You can’t picture me at all because you don’t know me. You base a whole projection of an imbecile in your head off of one observation I made and only point out because I pressed on the topic. They asked what I saw was woke, and I responded. Watch the episode and tell me I’m wrong
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/28/2024, 8:21 PM
@Saintsinnister - I'm not attempting to know you I'm simply articulating that you do not understand what the term woke means today based on your comment above. I have no problem with granting you that you are okay watching movies without white people in them. I will take your word for it.
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