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Forthas
Forthas - 9/24/2024, 2:45 PM
"...also suggests the studio is being cautious when it comes to splashing out on pricey A-List actors for these DCU projects."

TRANSLATION:

They can't afford A-List actors
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 9/24/2024, 3:05 PM
@Forthas - This isn’t necessarily a bad thing. There’s a lot of talent out there that aren’t A-list and tbf, we could do with some new A-listers. These type of movies are the perfect breeding ground for that.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/24/2024, 3:18 PM
@Forthas - becoming an a lister is due to luck, not talent. There are plenty of amazing actors who just need the right role
JFerguson
JFerguson - 9/24/2024, 3:32 PM
@Forthas - Raimi trilogy did a wonderful job casting non A-list actors.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/24/2024, 3:40 PM
@Forthas - pretty much. but they still don't have to cast b-level stars who resemble NOTHING like the character that they are cast..... i.e. Hal Jordan. I mean, wtf?
Forthas
Forthas - 9/24/2024, 3:40 PM
@FireandBlood - I half way agree with you but I also think that A-List actors can help films in two important ways. Firstly, one of the things that Christopher Nolan did with the Dark Knight films is that even if the main characters were not themselves A listers (debatable if Christain Bale or Heath Ledger were considered that at the time) he surrounded the main characters with veteran and or A-listers..Gary Oldman, Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman. Same with Robert Redford in Winter Soldier and Angela Basset in Black Panther. I think it brings gravitas to the film and there is more of an assurance that the veteran or top actors will sell the roles they are in.

But I do agree it is great and maybe even desirable to have the main characters and/or villians be newcomers or people who have not gotten a chance to shine to lead the films. A listers should not overpower the film as was the unfortunate case Michael Keatons Batman films but they can help elevate its quality.

And the other reason is sometimes and A Lister is just the perfect person for the role. I am thinking Patrick Stewart as Charles Xavier. It would be great if having the option of an A-lister that just fits were always availbale to a studio.
Forthas
Forthas - 9/24/2024, 3:44 PM
@Vigor - That is if you are just thinking about the main character. A listers can offer a level of prestige and attention to an otherwise obscure film. So even if the main characters are not A-Listers you are able to do both - utilize the star power and talent of A-listers and put the spotlight on up and coming talent.
Forthas
Forthas - 9/24/2024, 3:50 PM
@JFerguson - I beg to differ....the villians in Raimi's films were either A listers or solid actors.

Willem Defoe
Alfred Molina
Thomas Haden Church

...were all solid accomplished actors back then.
Forthas
Forthas - 9/24/2024, 3:53 PM
@lazlodaytona - Who they cast is a different conversation. If there is an A-list actor that is perfect for the role then I think the option should be there for the studio. But even if they did not they could surround the actor with solid talented and proven actors and actresses.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 9/24/2024, 4:01 PM
@Forthas

Matthias Schoenaerts is very much a talented and proven character actor.
Forthas
Forthas - 9/24/2024, 4:06 PM
@regularmovieguy - He may be accomplished but he is not an A-lister. Two differnt things!
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 9/24/2024, 5:12 PM
@FireandBlood -

There’s no sense in trying to use reason with forthas about any non-Nolan related DC content.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/24/2024, 6:14 PM
@Forthas - You say more dumb shit than I do bud.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 9/24/2024, 2:46 PM
i don't know anything about the character aside from the fact that he is a ginger so I kinda respect that.
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krayzeman
krayzeman - 9/24/2024, 2:49 PM
@harryba11zack - Is she about to be Kara Wick? lol
krayzeman
krayzeman - 9/24/2024, 2:49 PM
I like the way Gunn is building this universe out unconventionally vs the way the rushed into Justice League with the Snyder-verse. Sure we are not getting the most popular characters starting out besides Supes but I find what they are doing here far more interesting than whats going on over a Marvel...
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 9/24/2024, 2:54 PM
@krayzeman - 🥱
JFerguson
JFerguson - 9/24/2024, 3:33 PM
@krayzeman - the most ideal would have been a best of 2 worlds situation. Not rushed, but still conventional, starting with the trinity.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/24/2024, 6:16 PM
@EskimoJ - You were a fan of fat drunk Thor, no Tchalla recast, chicken shit Hulk gets smart, and Iron Man Doom creative decisions I take it? You probably love how Doc Strange isn't Sorcerer Supreme and broke reality for a 12 year old too then?
Gambito
Gambito - 9/24/2024, 2:53 PM
The guy is great in his new show with Kate Winslet I pictured him in my mind as maybe Batman or the Question he has a great voice
KaptainKhaos
KaptainKhaos - 9/24/2024, 3:02 PM
A White Dude as the Villain? I'm sure some folks here will be upset about that
Slotherin
Slotherin - 9/24/2024, 4:02 PM
@KaptainKhaos - did you just speak the words to summon Herman?
MisterBones
MisterBones - 9/24/2024, 3:06 PM
He looks like a villain but not my first choice for Krem by any means
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 9/24/2024, 3:11 PM
Gunn’s really about to establish the Superman family on the big screen in the space of a year. I hope this works 🤞
soberchimera
soberchimera - 9/24/2024, 4:24 PM
@FireandBlood - Hopefully, Legion of Superheroes is around the corner.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 9/24/2024, 4:33 PM
@soberchimera - That’s definitely up Gunn’s alley, and with the way he’s actually centred this universe on Supes, it’s only a matter of time, surely…
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/24/2024, 3:25 PM
He's passably red. He's like safe red, like Obama was safe black. If he was as red as he is in the comics it would scare the bigots.
TheTurd
TheTurd - 9/24/2024, 3:29 PM
Bummer, I was hoping for Pedro Pascal
Truoptimusprime
Truoptimusprime - 9/24/2024, 3:57 PM
So this is why Kripto is being introduced in Superman first!? I hope this is going to be something special!
Slotherin
Slotherin - 9/24/2024, 4:03 PM
Not familiar with Krem of the Yellow Hills... But he looks like he can krem some yellow hills
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/24/2024, 6:21 PM
Cool!!.

Physically I can see it even though I haven’t watched a lot of his work (international or Hollywood) but from the bits I have , he tends to play more stoic & quieter characters while Krem is usually loud and colorful atleast in the comic so it would be nice to see him play against type apparently.

Anyway , interested in this so hope it turns out well!!.

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